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, very long time. we have had since 1979 the pteron -- tehran model, and now you have in cairo that has hybrid model. i share your insights in governments and how is -- share your insights in governments and how that is going to play out? >> i think we have to be aware there is a trend in place here that to me is problematic. and that is between 1970 and now, the trend was toward state stabilization. even though it was a false promise of stability under authoritarian. in lebanon, it has been the other way for some time. in iraq, sure. libya, syria. the question becomes, can you have effective governance without a state? this is a hugely important problem. the kingdom's do not face it yet. or may not. i do not know. egypt, tunisia. this is one element of effective governance. you need a cohesive, coherent states. marwan? >> i think it was an extremely important question. i think social networks of grown with almost every government in the region. the state provides favors to players, a small or big. it is not a productive form of, you know, production. it is not merit-based. it is loyalt
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